Is there made a choice ? Maybe our new Mrs Laird wants to chose one ? ;D Brenda, come on girl, tell us which epi it will be. Not that I'll have time for it this weekend to watch it , have other things to do
This episode starts after the ball when Useless wakes Paul who has been sleeping outside all night, then Archie comes and tells Paul to leave.
Then we see everyone outside having breakfast when Paul returns carrying Useless who followed him. Archie takes him to one side and tells him to go again before Molly finds out, but she hears her name mentioned and wants to know what’s going on. When she learns the truth she is very upset and hurries into the house.
Lexie drives after Paul and persuades him to stay for a couple of days and have another try at talking to Archie. So she takes him to Golly’s, but Golly says he will not go behind Archie’s back and Lexie must tell Archie that Paul is there.
Then we have the beginning of the Kilwillie Spring Water fiasco where Golly’s well is empty but Kilwillie refuses to allow him access to the spring because he says the water belongs to him and Golly replies “I thought it falls from the sky on a regular basis”. Then Kilwillie barricades the spring and puts Badger on watch.
Archie cancels their honeymoon saying that Glenbogle must come first. Molly removes the painting of Hector and decides she can no longer stay at the house and wants to travel. So Andrew offers to go with her using the round the world tickets from Kilwillie. Molly was surprised because she thought Andrew loved it at Glenbogle and she says “People come here and loose the will to leave”, but he tells her it is only bricks and mortar and she is more important to him.
There is quite a bond developing between Golly and Paul and Golly tries to answer all of Paul’s questions, then Archie relents a bit and tells Paul things about their father but he is still adamant that Paul must go.
In the meantime the Military Police come to the house looking for Paul who is Absent Without Leave and he realises he must go back and face the music.
The Spring Water problem ends in a hostage situation for Duncan and Badger and neither Golly or Kilwillie will back down until Lexie turns up to sort thing out. Kilwillie tells her this is “mens talk”, and she replies “out of your backsides as usual”. Finally Golly gets his water and everyone agrees to go and help out to finish his croft.
Duncan has been feeling very undervalued but is thrilled when Archie turns up with Big Eric’s antlers mounted with Duncan’s name on the plaque.
Paul and Archie are working together but Paul goes off to find Useless, who is stuck on a ledge, so Paul goes down to get him and slips and falls into the water hitting his head. The dogs lead on Paul’s wrist gets caught on a rock so Archie has to jump in to rescue him, remembering Golly’s words “if I’d lost a brother, I’d be in no mind to loose another”.
Everyone is gathered worriedly on the bank waiting for them to emerge and all rush to get Paul out of the water safely.
Molly has decided she can’t leave and so Kilwillie gives the tickets to Archie and Lexie after all. Paul says he must return to his regiment but Molly tells him he is welcome to visit at any time.
As Archie and Lexie get on the boat to leave, Archie gets off again and gives Paul a big hug, showing his acceptance of him finally as a brother.
This sounds like a terrific epi Brenda...I am definitely looking into getting the complete box set as there are "holes' in my collection! I have Series 1&2 copied (they came to NZ) and the rest, kind people have copied and sent to me. (However I'm missing S4 epis.4 onwards and S5 pt.1) I'm sure a lot of exciting stuff happened between these
Brenda having given such a great overview from her point of view, I will try to add a few words of my own which, as I saw it, had, as the main theme of the episode:
The Difficult Family Acceptance of Paul
I felt that the main theme through this episode was the relationship between Paul and the others. At the beginning it was obvious that Archie was unwilling to accept Paul as a brother - even though in his mind they had a common father - but he somehow couldn't accept the idea, I think to a large extent due to his love for his Mother and knowing that she was upset (not ureasonably) at finding out what Hector had done unbeknown to her!
The first to really support Paul was Lexie and early on said to Archie "Paul is more of this family than I am" which I think kind of upset Archie.
Then the next supporter was Golly when she tried to bring Paul to Golly to stay with him as Archie refused to let him stay in the Big House! At first Golly was reluctant to do this and said that he couldn't do it behind Archie's back! But in the end he did take Paul in! Later Archie found out and came to complain to Golly and wanted to get Golly to make him go - but finally Golly said "This is my home and he is my guest!"
Later Paul and Archie are again talking together and Archie says "I have only one brother (Jamie) and he's dead" but Paul obviously wants to be accepted and indeed says to Archie "We are brothers and that is a reality"
In the meantime Molly has decided that she cannot stay in the Big House with Paul around! And decides to leave! Andrew (who is trying to marry her) says that he would be happy to go with her 'just as a friend'!!
Later when Golly (who is also fond of Molly) finds out about her intended departure he tells her that she can't keep running away from the situation and says "It's too late for him (Hector) to ask forgiveness but not too late for you to give it" and Molly departs.
Later I felt that Archie was beginning to thaw and when the two are walking together Archie slowly but methodically describes Hector to Paul in a series of 'pros' and 'cons' in a rather touching manner!
All are getting concerned about Molly leaving and Golly tells Andrew that they mustn't let her go or else she will have gone for ever. Lexie also aska Molly not to leave. Finally Molly finds Archie and Paul working together on rebuilding Golly's cottage and she decides to stay, I guess realising that they have become friends!
Later Paul sees Useless (whom he quickly had befriended) stuck on a ledge above the river and goes down to rescue him. He slips and falls right down into the river and immediately dives in to rescue him - the thoughts of losing another brother by drowning obviously overgoming any negative thoughts that he may have had. After a horrifying, and what seems an eternity the two brothers appear from under the water watched by many members of the family! They are finally hauled out and all is well with a happy reunion of them all!!
Molly finally accepts Paul and says he must stay with them in the Big House. but Paul says he will firet return to his regiment to face the consequences of having left AWOL!
Finally, to have a happy ending, we see Archie and Lexie departing on a belated honeymoon using tickets from Kilwillie originally intended for himself and Molly who declined his offer!! But just before leaving in Kilwillies motor launch, Archie goes back to Paul and gives him a great brotherly hug!!!
Post by ilovemotgtobits on Apr 13, 2008 13:20:17 GMT
Hmm, this could turn out to be a big debate: Was Archie justified in his hostility towards Paul? Of course, he had his reasons, seeing Jamie in Paul must have been painful. But the way Archie treated Paul was quite...unreasonable. One of the most touching moments is when Paul says, 'I'm not accusing anyone of anything'. He hasn't done anything except try to find his father, and Archie and Molly have dejected him. Paul obviously feels confused and angry with them, because he hasn't done anything.
Another good point i saw in the movie is Molly's acceptance that Paul hadn't done anything..in the kitchen when Lexie and Archie are discussing Paul, when she comes in and announces that shes leaving. She says, 'Why do you blame Paul? He hasn't done anything'. This was a really good point in the episode for me...as Molly understood that Paul hadn't done anything. However, her continous dislike for him..even after the episode in 5:2, was kind of harsh for me.
Another point I found interesting in this episode was why Molly felt angry with Hector. When Hector had gone to Megan, it was when Molly had left, he'd thought he'd lost her, so technically, he wasn't cheating on her, if he was a 'free agent' at that time..it's just one of those uncertain things. Golly tried to explain this to her, '*sighs* But by then Hector was already with Megan!' after Molly says that she came back (after she left when she was 19).
One last point about this episode was the last moment of the episode. It was a great sight to see Archie get out of the boat just to hug Paul. However, you could see the jealousy etched into Paul's forced smile
Cheers Marcus.. one point though.. reference to your last posting about the final scene.... I don't think it was jealousy on Paul Bowman's part - more like complete astonishment at his new brother's sudden change of heart towards him, okay they did probably have a chat after Paul was rescued but that physical man-hug came as a surprise to him and caught him off guard.
I too love that final shot of Archie and Lexie going off in the boat.. at last we see Archie look absolutely happy and showing it with a broad smile
Post by ilovemotgtobits on Apr 13, 2008 16:50:41 GMT
I suppose it could be that Marie, i think that that was one of those few moments where Archie and Paul..clicked. Another moment that stands out in my mind is the stag's photo, where their heads are together between the antlers I believe that KillWillie is TOO DARNED RICH! First class tickets around the world? I can't imagine how much they would've cost! Haha just wondered why he couldnt loan Glenbogle the money..
I believe that KillWillie is TOO DARNED RICH! First class tickets around the world? I can't imagine how much they would've cost! Haha just wondered why he couldnt loan Glenbogle the money..
This is a good point, but don't you think it would have made for 'bad blood' between the neighbors? I think it was more a matter of pride and honor to not have the MacDonald's ask him for money and also for him not to offer. Although having said that, I can't say for certain that Kilwillie had never offered to bail them out. My memory's a little fuzzy, but I seem to recall a conversation between Kilwillie & Archie on the subject--maybe in S3 when Stella was encouraging Archie to sell off portions of the land? I'm not sure.
Although Kilwillie did pitch in at times, like picking up the tab for the Chinese take-away at the Ghillie's ball--and I don't know that he was all too thrilled to have to cough up even that tiny ('tiny' in his world) amount--as, if I remember correctly, he turns the bill toward Lexie so she could see the amount before paying. ;D
********** My absolute favorite scene is the 'morning after' when they are all sitting around the table outside, having breakfast. It's so typical to have everyone gather together again like this after a big event, wanting to extend the festivities--of course in this case some have more on their minds than others, but it just adds to the drama.
I think Archie's reaction to Paul's arrival was understandable, seeing as the whole story came quite out of the blue. What I thought was interesting was how quickly his tune changed from the previous episode, when it was assumed Golly was Paul's father. Then, Archie told Golly that he, must deal with it, but when he found out the truth, I think it caught him off guard.
I can't blame Paul for wanting to forge a relationship with him, either. He knew nothing of the rocky past between Archie & his father or about the incident with Jamie & how responsible Archie still felt about his death. Paul immediately takes offense to his treatment, but is still willing to put things aside, he really only came in search of answers, I don't think he expected to find family.
************ Great screen caps, Marie--you did a terrific job capturing all of the action & drama in the episode!
It is interesting that there was more discussion of Marie's excellent screencaps - thank you Marie - than on the episode itself, except for the last message!! Perhaps that is the way these threads want to go - more emphasis on discussing the screencaps?
I love the opening scene, told it before it's one of my fav moments. Not only for Paul Bowman but more for my fav Laird Gorgeous in kilt. Good acting as usual of Alastair in showing emotions. For Archie it's very difficult to accept his 'new ' brother. And it isn't only for himself, but more for his mum. He tries to protect her.
My opinion is that it should have been taken longer than only one epi to let get Molly and Archie used to the 'Stranger' who seems to be a son of Hector. It's all so forced. Lexie and Golly who try to convince them both to accept Paul as a son of Hector.
Funny is the case of the Royal Water of Kilwillie The war between Kilwillie and the MacDonalds. Innocent Duncan who helps to solve the 'war '
What I don't like is the accident at the Fall. Why didn't they chose for another 'accident' Why must it be the same situation that Jamie died ?
but all by all a nice epi with that end that Archie and Lexie are going on honeymoon.
I really enjoyed this epi. after having seen it for the very first time last night. It really deals with in inability to accept change in the face of indisputable facts ie Paul being Hectors son and Archie's half brother and Molly's step son. It also shows the difficulty they have dealing with emotional pain and suffering. Both Archie and Molly make reference to Jamie and Paul showing up to replace him in some way, which they find abhorrent.
Lexie and Golly who are 'commoners' are more accepting of change and eager to resolve the Paul crises, whereas Molly and Archie want it to go away so they don't have to deal with it. Granted the crises is closer to them and affects them directly.
I loved it when Archie dived in to save Paul, he very nearly hugged him I'll have to watch this one again soon
It's my favourite episode of all. From the very beginning, all that pent up emotion of Archie and Molly, she must have felt bad even though 'the deed' happened after she had left Hector - but to suddenly find out in this way instead of him having told her. She probably had a fling or two whilst in London herself. To be honest, I can't imagine Hector discarding Meg like he did. I think he would have wanted her companionship until if/when Molly came back into his life. He was of the 'old school' and would have wanted a woman to be around, fetching and carrying.
I enjoyed Golly's little chat with Archie on the building scaffold, "If I'd lost one brother I'd not be in a mind to lose another" he says to Archie. It didn't take Archie long to see things differently. I think he would have tried to get to know his half brother slowly but suddenly the accident forced him to act quickly.
Paul was after nothing, apart from knowing his roots, finding if his father was alive.
I especially loved that final scene, Archie giving Paul a hug then going off in the boat with an excited Lexie ... brilliant, big smiles and happiness all around ;D