Yes I believe last year Matrhew died in the Christmas Special. This evening's episode was excellent as usual and there are a few loose ends that I guess will be dealt in this year's Christmas Special. And there's going to be a new series next year!! Yay!!
Yes, Matthew died in the 2012 Christmas special and thankfully at the end of the programme which was screened late in the day. I believe many viewers were upset by what happened and a fair few Christmas celebrations were dampened. The rest of the special episode showed, amongst other things, some fabulous Scottish scenery in and around Inveraray Castle.
Apparently JF is writing a new series for the US market based on the Vanderbilt family and the latest DA series has not had his full attention. I hear the next series of DA will be the last.
I do hate cliff hangers. Did Bates kill Green or not? Cliff hangers are for weekly soaps, not Drama series that disappear for months.
I am also not happy that JF is writing for American TV - he should be writing for English TV and giving us more shows.
BTW is it common knowledge that whilst we pay £145.50pa for the BBC (worth that for Top Gear alone) the average family pays £674 pa for commercial TV when they buy stuff? Downton should be on the BBC with no brain-numbing ads every few minutes.
Thankfully our PBS , DA and others included, does not run commercials. It is a 'free' service but they encourage, nay, have week long fundraising efforts seeking donations of support - which is still better than commercials interrupting everything. We don't see a Christmas special - perhaps I mentioned that? Our DA season simply ends with a two-hour episode "season finale" which may have more to do with the timing - the fact that DA's 'new' season starts here on Jan 5.
Enjoyed the two promotional vids noted earlier but it was strange seeing Kilwillie (aka JF) talking about DA. As I met him as Kilwillie it's hard to separate his identity. Incidentally Gosford Park has been on the cable movie channels here lately and I've missed it more than once. I don't go to the movie theaters much, prefer to simply wait it out and see them on tele in comfort of my home so I'm sometimes late to the party! In the case of Godsford Park - very, very late. (But I make a splendid entrance! LOL)
Welcome JF writing for us Yanks - our TV programming here sucks for the most part, in my opinion! (Another rant ended)
I just typed a paragraph and lost it. Ah, well, I'll start again. Yes, Macman, the Christmas special is the last episode of that series. Its very good...begins with a snowy drive in a vintage car up the front. Inside the women are decorating the huge tree. Dave, I really like Brendan too. Everyone who has mentioned it is right...you've got to see Rockface. Lots of good acting. There is a love triangle and a lot of mountain climbing. We watched the entire series...not missing a single episode and then missed the last one! Something massive happens and San Antonio Rose once told me how I could possibly see the series on line. Girl, do you remember how? Thanks if you remember! Mary
I have watched all of series 4 online and really enjoyed it. I have read that this year's Christmas special takes place 7 months later.....huuummmm, very interesting to speculate on the story lines.
I think that series 4 is not as good as the first ones, but, like MOTG, it is hard not to watch even if it isn't as good. It's an addiction! I will re-watch when it airs on PBS, especially since last year there were scenes in the PBS version which were not in the UK one. Odd because for MOTG it was just the opposite. Several scenes from the UK version were cut when it aired on PBS.
At any rate, I am happy they have announced the making of series 5!
I too enjoyed Rockface, even with that ending! For those who have seen it, did you recognize the actor who plays Lang in DA? He was in Rockface as well as Brendan Coyle and Clive Russell who was in the last episode of MOTG. My, my they do get around!
I hope everyone is staying warm...we had our first snow today here in New England.
I keep seeing here that the Netflix/PBS versions of MOTG are lacking scenes --- not germane to this subject but could someone here be specific - at least giveme an example or two that I can check via Netflix and my set of DVDs. If I'm missing something I'd like to know and if I need to buy a set of the UK DVDs so be it - but I don't want to go to that expense if it's unnecessary...
Thanks - and apologies for goin slightly off topic.
Agree that JF's writing is lacking. Too many loose ends for a once a year show. Also the romance with the black singer wouldn't have happened and but if it had, a brief 'surprise' visit from Lady Mary would not have stopped it stone dead... Writing needs to be convincing. Each episode of MotG is pretty much as story in itself and the character definition is terrific.
Nancy, I also have seen Rockface, a great series it was.a very young Brendan Coyle in it I've seen the first epi of series four and loved it. I read on facebook that a series five will be made. Let's hope it wont be as with MOTG that the quality of the series will go downwards !
What did you think of it? I feel there was too much emphasis on people whom we haven't seen before, just too many people dressed up all the time without a good story line attached. that's the first time I've been disappointed in the programme.
Well I received the "all regions" DVD player I had hoped for from Santa so it would appear I'll have to add Downton Abbey UK DVDs to my list along with the Finale episode of Wild at Heart and a few others if I want to see the full UK production.
I'm happy to say I found in the archives here the threads that list the "deleted" scenes of MOTG that were also cut for we Yanks, and I'm pleased to say it appears - from a simple check of S6Ep1 on my DVD set that the missing scenes are indeed included there.
That Christmas Special you're talking about, is that the last epi of series four ? With the ball for Rose in it ? I watched that epi last nigt, it's great. Only so many storylines that I had to keep my attention to it. I love the dialogues between Lady Violet and Lady Isobel. And what to think of Cora's mother Hilarious dialogues it are !
I'm sorry it's over now but I want the dvd of it to watch it once again. Maybe for my Birthday
I've no idea of the people you're referring to Maddie as we've only just has epi 1 here --- many plot lines to follow but S4 seems very promising - especially the emergence of Lady Mary. It's not MotG, but it is fun!
I find it so interesting that Julian Fellowes has put so many MOTG themes into Downton Abbey.....struggling estate trying to survive financially....staff person marries into the family.....animals (wolves vs. pigs) are brought in to save the day.....we may have discussed this elsewhere but with the introduction of the pigs in the most recent episode reminded me of it again.
Right you are katiesmom and let's not forget it was the son in MOTG and the son-in-law in Downtown who had to help the father come to grips with the estate's financial woes and who drafted the plan to save it.
"The creator of Downton Abbey, Julian Fellowes, has hinted that the hit show's next series could be its last.
The ITV drama, telling the story of the aristocratic Crawley family, is to return to screens later this year for the fifth series since its debut in 2010.
But Fellowes has been commissioned to write a new US drama called The Gilded Age and has said in an interview that work on the programme would not start until Downton had come to an end.
Fellowes told the Wall Street Journal: "It's for NBC Universal and it will happen when Downton finishes because I just couldn't do both at once.
"I haven't written it yet, but it's about the old aristocracy, the Winthrops and the Stuyvesants and the new money of oil and gas and shipping in the 1870s. It will all be fiction – it won't be real people – but when those families descended on New York, they took over."
The writer reassured fans that there would be a fifth series of Downton, but added: "I don't know yet if there is a season six, but it's not going to go on for ever. It won't be Perry Mason."
He also speculated that if the Crawleys had been a real family, they would have still been running the estate today – albeit in a more businesslike way.
He said: "My own belief is that they would survive, but they would be living in a back wing, and you could buy a ticket to visit and they would only come out in the winter."
Downton Abbey was last seen on British screens on Christmas Day, when a special episode was broadcast showing the family visiting London for debutante Lady Rose's coming out."